Comic 511 - Carefully retrieve the glowstick

Posted on 14th Oct 2017, 8:51 PM in Doors
Carefully retrieve the glowstick

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Morgenstern 14th Oct 2017, 8:51 PM edit delete
Morgenstern
You and Fuse take a minute to go grab the table and footlocker and bring them back to Bunker C. Fuse waits until just after the glowstick has passed to move the ceiling tile back into place... then waits for the crash of the glowstick hitting the ceiling. He retrieves the glowstick and hands it to you.

You have regained a glowstick.

You check on your ravens. One is at Macland's house, where nothing of note seems to be happening. One is at Rockwell Arcade, which appears quiet as well. The third is watching the street where the bunker door exists in the city. The street is one of many that still in shambles, and cars rarely bother to head this direction.

You check on Macland Row. The scarred guard has returned to Macland's side, and is currently talking with one of Macland's doctors. The doctor says that Macland has begun to show some brain activity, but not much. It's not evidence of recovery, but it's an improvement nonetheless.

You hug Baby Red. You still haven't fully committed to where the red should be planted.

Comments:

Akasha 14th Oct 2017, 9:06 PM edit delete reply
Now that we've reacquired the glowstick, maybe we can put Baby Red up on top of the ceiling-floor and let it do its thing?
Kitty 14th Oct 2017, 9:08 PM edit delete reply
That doesn't seem super-convenient for having access to it, though. Maybe we should talk it over with the group, and perhaps ask for an estimate of how long it would take to grow toward here as opposed to how long it would take to reconnect with Bunker A.
Anonymous 14th Oct 2017, 9:07 PM edit delete reply
Well, that worked. I kind of want to plant Baby Red here since it's a really open space. Maybe he can grow on the ceiling or something?
rufiangel 14th Oct 2017, 9:20 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
I'm still torn on where to plant Baby Red. Bunker A seems to make more sense to me though logistically? Hum. I'm all for asking other party members about it.

Fuse, any thoughts on how the science experiment went? Why did it start to spin? Did it touch the side of the ceiling tile gap at some point? Definitely seems like things don't speed up hurtling down this loophole. The gravity must reset at some point or... something super sciencey that I have no idea about lol

Also let's maybe let him know Mac is apparently showing a little brain activity. Does perceiving through Mac feel any different from the very braindead dude he was before?
Skybirds15 14th Oct 2017, 9:45 PM edit delete reply
So, the glow stick started spinning because of air resistance and the like, things do not speed up past terminal velocity, and honestly I kind of want to see what Mom's red makes of this place.

Brain activity... hmm. Maybe it's random due to him still being alive, maybe the memetic defense was designed this way. Wouldn't put it past Carpenter.
Deadly Death Sickle 14th Oct 2017, 10:23 PM edit delete reply
Deadly Death Sickle
It might also be a side-effect of us perceiving through him.
AlphaDragon 14th Oct 2017, 11:39 PM edit delete reply
Death sickle has an excellent point.
PurpleKetchup 15th Oct 2017, 2:15 AM edit delete reply
In which case, we should keep doing it. Brains are wonderful things when it comes to healing damage.
Well, as long as their owner didn't kick the bucket entirely.
Anonymous 15th Oct 2017, 2:36 AM edit delete reply
I think he meant that >we< were the cause of the brain activity. Like, every time we perceive through him, his brain 'works' since we're seeing through his eyes, and it sends signals to his brain which sends it to >us<, in which case, they can detect if we are seeing through people.
PurpleKetchup 15th Oct 2017, 2:56 AM edit delete reply
Yes, that's also what I meant. Keeping his brain active is an excellent way to make it heal - can't replace the lost connections without activity. Even if it's just to relay info to Jane, that should slightly help his case.
Deadly Death Sickle 15th Oct 2017, 3:44 AM edit delete reply
Deadly Death Sickle
We could just give macland that wake up thing right?


rufiangel 15th Oct 2017, 4:27 AM edit delete reply
rufiangel
"You consider trying to do something with Macland, but without his brain being on, it might be more akin to handling a dead body. You can send signals to his brain to make his body move, but if it doesn't respond, you'll have to move his entire body manually. That would take more blood, and... not look right, at all. Getting him to speak would be impossible, you're pretty sure."
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Though [Dr. Finch] mostly tries to stare straight ahead, your ability to perceive through him extends beyond his field of vision.
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"It's weird; you can sort of sense through the bandages. You don't want to say you can feel through them, but it's kind of like that. Like some extra... not exactly touch, not exactly sight, but some other sensation."
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Given these references, I think we can deduce that Jane perceiving through Macland is probably not what is rustling up his brain activity. Our ability to perceive through the people we have blooded isn't necessarily using their brain signals but is actually a weird supernatural extra-sense. If that's the right word? Basically we can perceive beyond their field of vision because we aren't actually using their eyes, and we can sense/feel stuff using a different sensation. It's how we can sense through inanimate objects that don't have any sensors per se.

That said, it's been stated that we can try to send brain signals to make Macland move though there's no guarantee of a response (and it might look reeeally weird). But I don't think we've actually been doing this up until this point, since we've only been just checking in on him.

I could be wrong, of course, but just my thoughts based on what we know so far.

Oh, and in response to your question, DDS, on 'that wake up thing' - if you're talking about the adrenaline shot, we could do it, but the issue isn't whether Macland is awake or not. ^^; He's awake, just not... there. Like, his brain is dead. Or mostly dead, since the doctor says it's showing tiny signs of life now.
Anonymous 15th Oct 2017, 6:39 AM edit delete reply
Rufi, has anyone told you how you're like,
the ultimate fan? Fanart... knowledge... the wiki. Awesome, dude. <s> not like i'm trying to write a fanfic for it </s> Man, I wish I was as good a fan as you.
rufiangel 15th Oct 2017, 8:23 AM edit delete reply
rufiangel
:'D I-I am terribly embarrassed by this remark LOL

We're all super fans! I just happen to be one that draws a lot XD;; Mochi and I both work on the wiki, btw :) And we aren't the only ones who clarify stuff in the comments - it's a community effort and discussion >w<*)9 I am happy, though, if you find my crazy contributions in the comments helpful -v-*)7
Mochi 15th Oct 2017, 12:40 AM edit delete reply
Mochi
i think it'd be more convenient to plant it in bunker a, in the lab. we have a large empty wall for it to grow on, and on top of that it'd be exposed to humans more and be able to observe them which might be of interest to it? it could perhaps better understand them, if it wanted. also, dr. finch did express an interest in having it near the lab, mostly to pick it for information. also, it'd be far more convenient than coming in here. there's very little space to actually do much of anything in this room. as interesting as a meat-based mobius strip would be, i think perhaps bunker a would be the best choice.
Memo 15th Oct 2017, 8:44 AM edit delete reply
Memo
I agree with you that bunker A is the better option. It's easy to get to, it's on earth, no frozen people or robots, Finch won't mind the company, and my personal peeve: we know where the outer door leeds. We have no idea what could come through the door at bunker B-D when it isn't connected to the "magic doorframe"
lil Joshu 15th Oct 2017, 1:40 PM edit delete reply
lil Joshu
Bunker C is by far the better option - it gives the most open space for lil Red to grow to fill, and likely contains a portal somewhere along its length that can be repurposed. This place is neigh-useless for just about everything else, but it's ideal for lil red; he'll be able to grow floors, living areas, etc.; Grow into a proper capital ship. Considering the height and the "not far" synopsis, it's likely this is one of the buildings in the city that stretches through all the tiers, meaning easy inconspicuous transport between tiers once lil red grows to fill it.

Seriously: Here, here here here! Putting lil Red anywhere else is just silly!
PurpleKetchup 15th Oct 2017, 2:21 AM edit delete reply
That glowstick hit the ceiling-ground at terminal velocity and didn't spill ? Whoa.
Anyway, not too much use for that lit stick now. It's going to go dark sooner than later.
Nayru9572 15th Oct 2017, 3:03 AM edit delete reply
This talk about Macland brings up a rather interesting point: what happens in someone's brain when we control/perceive through them?

Maybe Finch has some equipment lying around to observe brain activity? It probably wouldn't help us much, but it'd still be interesting to know.

Otherwise I'm for placing it in bunker C, but asking the others for their opinion first is a good idea.
Bluhx2 15th Oct 2017, 6:49 AM edit delete reply
Bluhx2
Finally registered an account for this site... now my days as Anonymous is over and I can actually use highlighters.
Memo 15th Oct 2017, 8:37 AM edit delete reply
Memo
One of us, one of us.. :)
rufiangel 15th Oct 2017, 10:40 AM edit delete reply
rufiangel
*whispers*
the blood, the blood
rufiangel 15th Oct 2017, 11:34 AM edit delete reply
rufiangel
I doodled a lot of tiny BiM things on the plane a couple of weeks ago (the 'serial hugger' doodle being one of them) so you might find me dropping tiny things here for a bit XD

Here's a Michelle and Fuse friendship doodle based on when Fuse made breakfast that one time:
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It's neat going back and seeing what's different - er, aside from the fact Fuse was not bacon back then XD; like, Michelle was still not at the stage she could fake-pout at Fuse while messing around with him at this point, but they're there now XD I really like the dynamics between these two, they get along like a house on fire ;D

Also quite aside from everything else, given how good Fuse is at a whole bunch of stuff, it's funny to discover something mundane he's bad at XD
Varil1024 15th Oct 2017, 2:37 PM edit delete reply
Varil1024
Is anyone else kind of alarmed at the idea of Macland recovering? Either as some sort of meat-puppet under somebody else's control or just in general, since he was kind of a bastard and probably won't improve after we blue-screened his brain.

I still think the loop-hole is the best place to plant lil' Red, but regardless of where we put him I feel like we should decide soon.

I think that our next immediate concern is de-baconing Fuse, then trying to learn more about our new homes. We should check where all the disconnected doors lead, for instance.

HEY. If one of those doors leads somewhere safe we could put lil' Red there! Obviously "snowy wasteland" is probably out since it's out in the open and also a snowy wasteland, but one of these bunkers might lead somewhere safer(prooooobably not the one on Mars either). What's outside the pit, for instance?
Twyll 15th Oct 2017, 4:02 PM edit delete reply
It honestly depends on what the doctor means by "brain activity." It could be sensory or brainstem stuff, which would actually just make it easier for us to control the unconscious Macland-- if we don't have to focus on keeping him breathing, if he has some kind of physiological responses that allow him to balance better so we can make him zombie-shuffle instead of dragging him like a corpse.

If it's frontal cortex sort of thought, personality, and memory stuff, then he still may not be half as much of a bastard as he was, simply because he'll still have to relearn how to talk, eat on his own, dress himself, and he may *never* walk again, depending on what kind of mental connections he needs to reforge.

He may just be upgrading from "vegetable" levels to "slime mold" levels.
Blue_Elite 15th Oct 2017, 3:38 PM edit delete reply
For the Bunker A vs. Bunker C debate for Lil' Red, I feel like we need more information about what's BEST for Lil' Red. Would xe benefit from constantly being around people or would it be something xe tolerates rather than appreciates?

Can we get an inner-mind session with The Red for a more... verbose discussion on the matter?